HG Products (Staples)
- Updated: May 15, 2012
Shampoo
- HerbnLife Royal Rinse (seriously, this stuff has the slip of a conditioner)
- Creme of Nature Argan Oil Moisture and Shine Shampoo (Now in second place!!! The Royal Rinse is yum delish.)
Honorable Mention Shampoos (Here are a few more options that I might purchase again – however, I don’t buy a lot of shampoo b/c it takes me FOREVER to use them up)
- Elucence Moisture Balancing Shampoo
- Mixed Chicks Gentle Clarifying Shampoo
Deep Conditioner
- Ingredients to Die For Organicals Deep Conditioning Creme
- Shea Moisture Organic Black Soap Purification Hair Masque
- EVOO and Honey
Protein Treatments/Condishes
- Cherry Lola Treatments (Alkaline treatment used when needed, maybe every 6 months or so)
- Curl Junkie Repair Me!
- Curl Junkie Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner
Cleansing Conditioner
Rinse Outs
- Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing Conditioner (Update)
- Garnier Pure Clean Conditioner
- Trader Joe’s Tea Tree Tingle Conditioner
- Carol’s Daughter Chocolat Smoothing Conditioner
- Various more expensive condishes that I also leave-in
Leave-in Condishes
With Glycerin
- Curl Junkie Curl Rehab (Strawberry Ice Cream scent)
- Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan and Olive Oil Daily Conditioner
- Darcy’s Botanicals Pumpkin Seed Conditioner
- Camille Rose Curl Love Moisture Milk
- Oyin Hair Dew and pt. 2 here.
- Reve Essentials Hair and Body Moisturizer
- Darcy’s Botanicals Sweet Cocoa Bean Curl Smoothing Cream
Stylers
Gels
- 99% or 100% Aloe Vera Gel (I love Fruit of the Earth)
- Fantasia IC (Clear)
- Blue Eco Styler
- Kiss My Face Upper Management Gel
- UFD Curly Magic
Curl Cremes/Puddings/Gellies
Finishers
Pomades/Sealants
- HerbNLife Butter Fly Gold
- Oyin Burnt Sugar Pomade
- B.A.S.K. Palm Tapioca Deluxe Hair Cream / B.A.S.K. Condensed Custard (also acts as a moisturizer, as these are water based)
- Qhemet Biologics Aethiopika Hydrate & Twist Butter
Oils (Although I do not buy oils often)
- Jojoba Oil
- Rice Bran Oil
- Carol’s Daughter Hair Elixir
- Carol’s Daughter Chocolat Smoothing Blow Dry Cream
- Emtage Silktage Oil
- Carol’s Daughter Hair Balm (for blow drying, I’ve never used it to flat iron)
- KCCC
- Trader Joe’s Tea Tree Tingle
- Honey and EVOO Treatments
- Cherry Lola Treatments
- Fruit of the Earth Aloe Vera Gel
- HerbnLife Coconut Hemp
- HerbnLife Head Sprung
A few notes:
- These are all products I consider to be holy grails, and do not include products that I will simply rebuy due to a sale, if I’m bored, etc…I buy lots of things on a whim or if I’m in a bad mood (lol).
- I do not take vitamins to grow my hair. But, I do like vitamins in general and take hair/skin/nails vitamins for overall health. My fave is Viviscal (previously was also Nioxin, but those have been discontinued), but I have been using Shen Min Hair, Skin, and Nails. I want to try them for 4 months minimum, but as of now I’m going to switch back to Viviscal after I finish these. Also, please remember that no matter what you try to get your hair to grow, it doesn’t mean anything if you aren’t using proper hair care practices to RETAIN length.
- What happened to the Moisturizers? Meh, I decided that I don’t really use moisturizers in the traditional manner because most of them are too thick for my hair, and my leave-ins are moisturizing enough to use in their place. Moisturizer, schmoisturizer. It also takes me FOREVER to finish them. Don’t want my stuff going bad and all.
- FORMULATION CHANGES: If I remove a product from my HG list due to a formulation change, it does not mean that the new formulation is bad. It just means that I have not tried the new formula, and I can’t have something on my list that I haven’t tried. That’s one of the benefits of having several staples – I don’t cry when I have to remove something!
Comparing Products: I am often asked to compare two products in the same category (for instance KCCC vs. UFD, UFD vs. Pattern Pusha, etc). Truthfully, the best way to compare products is to view the review for each product and make your own comparison – I try to be very thorough in my reviews and go over several objective details in addition to how they performed on my hair. When the initial review is done, the thoughts are fresh in my head, so that is when you will receive the most information. Sometimes, the result is so similar (like with KCCC and UFD) that I may do a video/photo comparing them side by side in my hair, but this will not be a common theme of the blog because there are just too many possible combinations and I often mention some similar products in the reviews. If there is no review for one of the products, please be patient. If a product is on my HG list, obviously I think it is great.
For additional information and a condensed list of my favorite staples, check out this video. This video is now a little out of date, but mostly accurate (actually, I probably need to update it).
Honorable Mentions – These are products I rebuy on sale or with free shipping. Most of my HGs I can either buy on the ground or am able to do hauls with multiple products and get a discount and/or free shipping. Mainly, things I can buy from AveYou, Vitacost, Sage, iHerb, etc. These other products are not as readily available and I can live without them (while pouting), but I still like them a lot.
- Cush Cosmetics Curl Extender
- Cush Cosmetics Uncoiled Leave-In
- Camille Rose Almond Jai Twisting Butter
- Donna Marie Dream Curling Crème
- Curly Hair Solutions Curl Keeper
- Keracare Natural Textures Leave-In Conditioner
- DevaCurl One Condition
- DevaCurl No Poo
- Curl Junkie Curl Queen
- Curl Junkie Pattern Pusha
- Curl Junkie Hibiscus & Banana Deep Fix
- Donna Marie Miracurl Curling Gelly
- Curls Coconut Dream Conditioner
- Curls Milkshake (Adult/Kiddie versions)
- HerbNLife Coconut Hemp
- KCCC
- AG Re: Coil Curl Activator (Love this stuff but it’s hella expensive! I need an Ulta sale. In my review, I didn’t even seem to like it that much, but since that time I’ve learned how to use it to work for me – under a leave-in, with a finisher on top)
- Karen’s Body Beautiful Super Silky (Review pending)
- Oyin Whipped Pudding
- Oyin Honey Hemp Conditioner
If you have any questions, think I forgot something, or would like to know if something is a rebuy, please let me know! If you see a product with “review pending” or you are waiting for a review, please be patient! I have a loooong list of products to review (especially from when I took hiatus) in addition to sponsored videos I have to do. I am trying to get to them. Also, I will not do a review of a leave-in/styler/sealant/finisher unless it is currently in my hair. Again, if something is on the HG list, I think highly of it. Sometimes it’s beneficial to take the plunge and try it out for yourself – I should not have to review every product before you buy it!
Thanks, lovies! xoxo
May 23, 2011 @ 19:49:40
lol, i was like ummm where is the KMF Upper Management Gel? Then I read the addendum. I like it with the Oyin Hair Dew underneath. However I hate that I have to use a lot and it is so thick, I be running through that bottle to fast.
May 23, 2011 @ 19:50:54
Lol! Yea girl, I usually have some on deck but it does react with a lot of stuff…it’s really annoying.
May 23, 2011 @ 20:31:28
Elle, my coworker recently cut off lower mid- back locs. She now wears a twa. Her hair is very brittle and dry feeling. What products can I recommend to her to create true, long lasting, daily moisture for her probably lower 4 something(4c?) typed hair?
May 23, 2011 @ 20:37:41
Does she have fine or coarse hair? What’s her porosity? Hair type is not really helpful. Also, what products is she using now? Do they contain glycerin? If so, how is the climate where you live? Is it dry or very humid? I recommend searching the site for more information on moistuizing hair and info on dew points.
May 26, 2011 @ 03:52:03
Elle, where do you purchase your Shea moisture Shea Butter Leave in? This is the first time that I have see or heard of this?
May 26, 2011 @ 05:49:56
It’s available at some BSS in MD and NY, you can also order from Treasured Locks or Amazon.
May 29, 2011 @ 16:58:08
Elle, really missing your videos. Hope you get your laptop back real soon.
Anyhoo, Oyin Burnt Sugar Pomade…not lovin’ it. Noticed it on your Holy Grail Product list. Even if I could get past the terrible odor, the texture is extremely grainy. I first emulsify it in my hands as much as I can…still grainy. When I rub it on my hair it looks like I have dandruff. WTH? Have you ever had this problem with it. How & when do you use it? I searched all your videos unable to find one with this product review. Think I have a bad batch? Thanks…Go Heels!
May 30, 2011 @ 06:39:26
How much are you using? Since it’s a pomade, you only need a little. Mine has always been somewhat gritty but smooths out in my hands. I also like it better for when my hair is straight. I don’t think your batch is bad – pomade can be tricky to use, especially if you’re using it on wet hair. And I love the smell, what does yours smell like? Duke Duke!
May 30, 2011 @ 07:23:14
It smells like burning maple syrup. I am not using much…have tried to use on both wet and dry hair. Your comment on using with straight hair I think is the key! I will stick with Carols Daughter Mimosa Hair Honey if I need to use a pomade type product. It smells so good…do you like? Her Tui hair line smells great also. As for Oyins products I’ve tried several do not like or use. Qhemet Biologics product line seems better suited for my hair. Thanks!
May 30, 2011 @ 07:45:46
Burning? Lol…I don’t think mine smells like that. I think CD products stink to high heaven!! I think the only think I liked the smell was the Black Vanilla Leave-In.
Jun 05, 2011 @ 20:37:58
You got rid of Donna Marie’s super buttercreme as a moisturizer, why is that?
Jun 05, 2011 @ 20:40:29
The oils separated in the last jar I had.
Jun 05, 2011 @ 21:03:14
Hmm…interesting. Do you know what factors may have caused the oils to seperate? Is it on the no buy list? Or will you rebuy it in the near future?
Jun 05, 2011 @ 21:09:08
Most likely didn’t have enough emulsifier or was not mixed properly. I was still able to use it, but I can’t have it on the HG list. I haven’t decided whether I would buy it again – probably not. I have another full jar that I bought awhile ago though to use. I don’t seem to have as much use for heavier moisturizers anyway.
Jun 06, 2011 @ 17:08:30
What is a finisher? I notice you have it on your HG list. Usually, my gel is my finisher.
Jun 06, 2011 @ 17:48:03
A serum that softens a gel and adds extra moisture.
Jun 16, 2011 @ 05:29:32
This list is wonderful. Thanks for sharing. I live in Central America where the dew points are in the high 70s – 80s on a daily basis. I follow you because our hair is very similar except i have normal porosity. However, all the products you use seems to work great for me. I’m going to the States for a week and would love to get some products for this tropical climate. My question is which stylers from this list would you recommend for such high dew points? Do you think my shampoo/conditioners would make a diff as well? should I not be using such humectant conditioners as I do? If not, which I believe I’m not supposed to, which conditioner (s) would you suggest for such high dew points? Much appreciated…
Jun 16, 2011 @ 05:44:29
This has been answered as a QOTD – a lot of places have high dew points in summer.
http://questfortheperfectcurl.wordpress.com/2011/06/02/question-of-the-day-product-recommendations/
Jun 16, 2011 @ 11:41:14
thank you! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!! I’m just starting to understand dew points so I truly appreciate you sharing all your info and research with me. thanks again! I will be in New York City. Do you think I could find Curl Junkie products there or should I order it now? I will be leaving NY on Monday, June 27th. Not much time to order
Jun 16, 2011 @ 12:46:55
I don’t know if they sell CJ in NY, but there is a list of retailers on the CJ website.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 15:00:39
Hi Elle!!! *waves hand* I absolutely LOVE your blog and YouTube channel; I definitely use both as my go-to resources. Anywho, I have a question for ya: Do you think the Oyin Handmade Honey Hemp Conditioner can also be used as a deep condish?? I have not ever used this product before- it seems to be very enticing.
Thanks, Elle. Your Pal, Chhabria. xo
Jul 10, 2011 @ 16:55:50
Hey hey! Thanks for the compliment, it makes me happy that you find the blog/channel helpful
And YES, you can def use the Honey Hemp as a DC, I love it! It’s hands down one of my best condishes, and I’ve been using it for a long time.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 17:23:50
Thanks so much. Yay, I can’t wait to try it now!:-) xo.
Jul 12, 2011 @ 05:46:31
Hey Girlie! I love that you keep us in the loop when something is good enough to make your HG list. Just wondering are you going to review the new products you put on the list?
Jul 12, 2011 @ 05:51:34
Since they are shampoos and rinse outs, I may just group them together and do a review for new HGs. I usually don’t have much to say about those products because I rinse them out and they aren’t the key players in my “finished” look. I also have a ton of reviews to do still, so it’ll be awhile.
Jul 20, 2011 @ 17:31:27
whats the msm condish? i don’t remember you talking about that one…
btw i love your blog=) your reviews are really great bec you just don’t praise/bash a product but you really explain WHY and your science is ON POINT, so no matter what your personal opinion is it really helps me (us) get a feel for how a product could work for us. i wanna thank you so much for that! oh and Izzy is the bomb diggs…she’s one of my biggest curly hair crushes=)! haha
Jul 20, 2011 @ 18:40:22
Thank you and you’re welcome! Here’s a link to the conditioner – http://www.healingedge.net/store/more_ult_msm_conditioner.html. I haven’t reviewed it yet, but I think I’m going to do a video of a few new condishes I can get on the ground that I added to my HG list.
Jul 22, 2011 @ 19:14:41
oh thanks for the link! ingredients look good and some of their other items seem cool as well… can’t wait for the vid=)!
Jul 22, 2011 @ 12:32:41
Elle, did you post another shampoo earlier this month and take it off yesterday? Also, have you ever tried the giovanni leave in? a lot of naturals rave about it… and i was just wondering what your take was on it.
Jul 22, 2011 @ 12:35:43
I did, I decided to take it off because I most likely wouldn’t order the shampoo – I did a side by side comparison with my CON and it wasn’t as good. I don’t like the Giovanni Direct Leave-In, I bought it once and used half the bottle to shave my legs.
Jul 22, 2011 @ 12:54:20
lol @ shaving your legs with it! Last question… how to you mix your evoo & honey deep condish? and do you put on first then poo and rinse and condish? Is there an “on the ground” leave in condish/condish as leave-in you would use?
Jul 22, 2011 @ 13:05:29
I just added the link to my post about the evoo/honey mix and the process. I don’t necessarily dc and shampoo the same day (see regimen). Also, I just talked about leave-ins on the ground in my FAQ posted this morning. Please check that out.
Jul 31, 2011 @ 00:21:34
I really enjoy your blog and videos! Does Spiral Solutions Deeply Decadent Moisturizing Treatment Review get a honorable mention? In the video you gave it a great review but were reluctant to add it to your HG!
Jul 31, 2011 @ 13:31:37
For now…no. I definitely like it, but have used it all and am assessing some other DCs that are cheaper that I might add to the Honorable Mention, because I can’t add anything else to my list without kicking something off, it’s just too many products.
Aug 02, 2011 @ 10:25:32
Elle, I know you buy Curl Rehab in the 32oz bottle and I’m actually thinking about getting that size as well. How long does it usually last you?
Thanks!
Aug 02, 2011 @ 10:30:00
Um…lol, I still have the bottle I bought during Black Friday, but it’s alllllmost gone. I haven’t even opened the one I bought during the Easter Sale yet.
Aug 04, 2011 @ 09:30:40
Hello Elle-
Ok, so I’ve been natural for over 5 yrs and have never done a wash n go…until this morning. I was really excited to try it. After I co-washed, I applied KKNT leave in and donna marie coco hemp butter milk. Afterwards i used Kiss my face upper management gel and finished with curls in a bottle. My curls were loose and popping. However, by the time i made it to work ( 20 mins later) my loosely popping curls was a tight teeny weeny curly afro.
Based on what I used, did i do something wrong? Also, I would like to wear the style for at least a week but am uncertain how often to reapply whatever is needed to keep the curls. gel, leave-in, water only? Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.
Have a good one!!!
Aug 04, 2011 @ 09:35:07
You did nothing wrong, I assure you. Our hair shrinks, that’s what it does.
I embrace my shrinkage because when my hair is wet, it touches my shoulders and rubs against my clothing, which I do not want it to do because that can cause breakage and hinder growth. I personally have never had my wash n go last longer than five days, nor have I wanted it to, but I have a video on how I refresh my hair each morning. After initial styling, I only fluff out with a leave-in each morning – I do not add water or gel.
Aug 04, 2011 @ 13:40:17
Thanks a trillion! BTW…love the vids! Keep em’ coming. I look forward to your reviews.
Aug 07, 2011 @ 15:27:52
Hi! Beautiful hair! Quick question on your wash and go’s. Do you wash your hair and then apply a leave in conditioner and then your styler? What leave in do you use and what styler? I know you did a tutorial but sorry I couldn’t catch the name in the vid. Thanks!
Aug 07, 2011 @ 15:50:16
Search for sectioning on the site and it should come up. I also use various products on my hair but just did a vid on my favorites.
Aug 07, 2011 @ 16:27:20
Hi Elle, is Glycerin not good for our hair? I just BC’d 2 months ago and have been trying different products. I bought the DevaCurl No Poo and One Condition which I just tried today. I left a bit of the One Condition in my hair but I’m not sure if this will be harmful. My hair is really dry and needs the extra moisture.
Aug 07, 2011 @ 16:37:39
There is a ton of info on the site about glycerin – search glycerin, dew point, or humectant and it should come up.
Aug 07, 2011 @ 17:15:36
Hi Elle,
Noticed that Enso’s Sea Buckthorn & Horsetail Moisture-Rich Daily Conditioner was on your Honorable Mentions list. I’m doing a major Enso haul (the products are actually in my cart, just waiting for the sale tomorrow) and wanted to know if you liked the Sea Buckthorn & HMRDC (that name is definitely too long) better than the Sweet Honey Hibiscus Leave In?
Aug 07, 2011 @ 17:23:48
I never tried the Hibiscus Leave-In, so I can’t say.
Aug 07, 2011 @ 17:51:47
Ohhhh, okay. I guess that means I’ll have to try both
, still can’t quite get over their prices. Thanks!
Aug 22, 2011 @ 16:20:47
Hey Elle! I hope all is well with you! I’m looking for a shampoo/conditioner, leave in condish or any product that can create LOTS of slip. I’m experiencing a lot of breakage and shedding when I wash, condish and detangle my curls. I’m in the process of getting a seamless comb, but I’m thinking I may need to add a very slippery conditioner too. What do you think? Thanks a bunch!
Aug 22, 2011 @ 16:45:09
Have you looked at any of the reviews on the list? I usually talk about slip and show the product consistency in my reviews. I definitely need something with slip when I’m detangling in the shower.
Aug 29, 2011 @ 14:22:53
Hi Elle!!
I have a quick question. I know you don’t straighten your hair very often, but I was wondering do you know of a good heat protector, or have a Holy Grail heat protector? I know in the “How I Straighten My Hair Video” you weren’t originally planning on straightening in that video, so the product you would normally use for a flat iron may be different. I plan on straightening my hair soon, and am looking for a good heat protector that isn’t too heavy.
Aug 29, 2011 @ 14:28:30
I don’t, since I don’t straighten my hair I haven’t had a chance to test many and have never gotten results I am satisfied with.
Aug 31, 2011 @ 07:24:01
Hi Elle,
I like the finished natural look of the Hair Rules curly whip and am thinking of buying a bottle. What leave-ins did you get while globs with. My staple leave-ins are sheamoisture CH hair milk, CJ Smoothing Lotion, and Knot Today. Was the reaction with one of those?
Aug 31, 2011 @ 07:26:50
No, it was with DevaCurl One Condition.
Aug 31, 2011 @ 07:59:25
Thanks for the fast reply! One more thing…in the demonstration video for curly whip the demonstrator re wets her hair after applying the product. Did you have to do that? My hair has low porosity, is super thick, and 99% of the time I air dry. If I did that my hair would be wet for days.
Aug 31, 2011 @ 08:14:41
I go over how I use it and apply in the review.
Aug 31, 2011 @ 09:00:20
Thanks my bad…
Sep 05, 2011 @ 09:04:00
What’s the difference between the CJ Curl Queen and CIAB? I have the CQ and love the fact that it’s a very light holding gel with a great smell. I want to try CIAB but just wondering how they differ?? The consistency looks the same….
Sep 05, 2011 @ 11:14:54
Btw Elle, I did see the separate reviews you did on both…but just wanted to get an idea of how the 2 products differ…thx!!
Sep 05, 2011 @ 11:43:20
It’s best to compare the reviews because I went over both products in detail and my thoughts were fresh – they are different in terms of moisture/hold definitely. The ingredients are also completely different between the two.
Sep 21, 2011 @ 15:28:40
hey Elle! are you still using your mason pearson brush to detangle? and if so, which one did you buy? I’ve searched, and I don’t see a video, nor do I see it on your holy grail list, but I do remember that you mentioned it in video! I wanna purchase one, but kinda stuck on which one to get! Thanks! ;-}
Sep 23, 2011 @ 06:05:51
Hey Elle,
I did a wash and go on Monday using IC Fantasia. Oyin Honey Hemp as a leave in, and CJ Curls in a bottle as a finisher…Well….Every morning I just wet my hair in the shower and reapply Curls in a bottle and I’m still Rocking the Same Wash N Go Friday morning! and I’m in Love with my hair…..Thanks so much!!! Keep it coming Lady!!
Dec 03, 2011 @ 23:33:16
Why did you get rid of the Curling Crème? I thought you loved that product!
Dec 04, 2011 @ 00:28:45
No reason really, just making the list smaller, and it has glycerin so I can’t use it all the time.
Dec 13, 2011 @ 00:29:08
What’s the difference for you between the Oyin Burnt Sugar pomade and Herb N Life’s Coconut Hemp? I’m curious because you said you were cutting the list down but they’re both still there so they must be a bit different. Thanks!
Dec 13, 2011 @ 02:32:06
Nothing really, I can buy herbnlife on the ground though.
Dec 13, 2011 @ 00:54:45
Okay so I’ve really been thinking of going natural and so I found your page and I find it great but I’m really confused on alot I hear you talking about alot of your products but I’m unsure of where you purchase them. If there is any kind of way that you can get back with me and let me know what products would be good for me to use as a stater & WHERE DO YOU PURCHASE I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
Dec 13, 2011 @ 02:33:59
The link to the product is in each review. As for what you should use, I suggest you experiment a bit. Everyone’s hair is different.
Dec 13, 2011 @ 01:46:29
I saw your review on QB BRBC and I was wondering how come it didn’t make the HG list or atleast OM?
Dec 13, 2011 @ 02:31:15
It used to be on there, then I took off moisturizers.
Dec 17, 2011 @ 21:54:54
Have you ever tried “QP Elasta: Olive Oil and Mango Butter Mousturizer”? A-Frickin-Mazing!!!!
Dec 18, 2011 @ 14:58:26
I haven’t, I don’t like the ingredients to be honest!
Dec 18, 2011 @ 11:38:42
Elle, I’m big chopping soon and trying to get a regimen ready. I can’t seem to find a good shampoo or deep conditioner worth its price. Can you recommend some? I’d prefer ones I can get on the ground. Also, I was considering the Creme of Nature Argan Oil Shampoo, but I hear so much negativity about parabens. What do you think of parabens? Thank you & have a good day
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- Signed a Transitioning Teen
Dec 18, 2011 @ 14:59:40
See above! I don’t have a lot of luck with shampoos, so the CON is what I get on the ground, along with the Shea Moisture Purification Masque for DC’ing (at Walgreens and Target). I’ll worry about parabens in my hair when I start eating food without parabens in them.
Dec 19, 2011 @ 12:26:15
Hey, I love your YT channel. I have never had a perm but I use Perm Repair Daily Moisture Treatment (very inexpensive) before blowing drying my hair. I was wondering if you have ever tried it. I have not quite figured out how to use it in when wearing my hair out naturally.
Dec 19, 2011 @ 15:19:27
No, I’ve never tried it.
Dec 26, 2011 @ 16:31:29
Hey Elle,
I’m pretty new to your blog and I have to say you’re pretty awesome! Haha seriously keep up the good work because it’s highly appreciated.
On a separate note, I wanted to ask for some advice..my hair has grown out longer, BSL, with about 3 inches remaining from my first and last perm from about 1 year ago. The products the my hair use to love, it now seems to hate. From what I’ve seen thus far in your videos, my hair type and “behavior” ha, is about the same as yours minus the thickness. With all of that stated, is there any products you would recommend?
Thanks so much,
Ricky
Dec 26, 2011 @ 17:38:41
Can you review the Herb N’ Life Royal Rinse?
Jan 09, 2012 @ 10:24:48
I just want you to know how grateful I am that your website is so organized and detailed. THANK YOU!!!! I tried some of your staples and they really work well on my hair. But I was wondering, when do you use hair puddings instead of gels? The Aloe gel works well, but since I am product happy I ordered the pudding also but am not sure when to use it.
Jan 09, 2012 @ 14:38:21
You’re welcome! There’s really no specific time I use a pudding vs. a gel – it just depends on what I feel like using that day. Remember, they’re all stylers. Hth!
Jan 11, 2012 @ 16:01:04
Do you think Shea Moisture Black Soap Shampoo is good? My hair really seems to like black soap, but the bottle I have right now is only a sample so I’m looking into other brands.
Jan 11, 2012 @ 16:02:19
Never used it.
Jan 17, 2012 @ 11:27:28
hey Elle! How come Aussie Moist didnt make to honorable mention? Is it because it has a cone? just curious is all
Jan 17, 2012 @ 11:33:32
Pretty much – it’s great for a drugstore condish but I don’t buy it often b/c of the cone.
Jan 17, 2012 @ 18:34:02
Hey Elle, just wondering why the Knotty Girl conditioner isn’t on your holy grail list. You mention liking it in your videos and it used to be on your old hoyl grail list. Just curious to find out why it didn’t make the cut!
Jan 17, 2012 @ 18:37:29
No reason in particular – I think I just had too many conditioners already. I think I took it off to add my other MSM condish as a protein condish, but then I took that off too because I seriously have a billion conditioners. I have some right now though and often buy a bottle when I pick up the leave in. I mention that more in my videos (the leave in) and it’s certainly on the list.
Jan 17, 2012 @ 19:14:51
Do you think its still necessary to pay attention to dew points if your go to transitioning/protective style is a bun?
Jan 18, 2012 @ 09:01:29
Do you know any good clarifying shampoos?
Jan 21, 2012 @ 14:46:33
Hi Elle! I just wanted to ask you how do you do all of your natural hair product research. Everytime I check your website or youtube channel, you’re always mentioning a product I never heard of before. Could you give me tips on how to do my own research. No ones hair is the same, so instead of asking whats the best shampoo or gel, I rather find a product that might fit me perfectly. Are books and forums about natural hair helpful?
Jan 21, 2012 @ 14:49:39
Yes, I’d check out forums and natural hair books. I go over the books I like in my “You Just Big Chopped, Now What?” video, and the 4a board on NaturallyCurly always has the info on new products. When I look up ingredients, I use Google (often ingredients are sold on cosmetic base sites, so they discuss what the ingred is and its benefits for hair) or I look it up in some books I have.
Jan 21, 2012 @ 15:58:25
Thank you so much! Everytime I feel like I got it all figured out, somehow I’m back to being lost and confused lol. Thank you again.
Jan 22, 2012 @ 17:35:50
Hi!! I had a question about the Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan and Olive oil conditioner. I used it as a leave in twice and applied the ciab right after. My hair came out super soft, but the definition was weak. Have you ever experienced this problem with the beauticurls and if so, what recommendations would you have to get the curls defined?
Thanks!!
Jan 22, 2012 @ 17:47:12
In my opinion, a lack of curl definition is not a problem. You can try a stronger styler though.
Jan 31, 2012 @ 05:14:49
Is there an on the ground finisher that yhou would recoomend using?
Jan 31, 2012 @ 05:52:43
Maybe aloe vera gel or an oil, but nothing I consider an actual finisher.
Feb 02, 2012 @ 02:59:57
I know you said you won’t be doing videos for a while, but when you do please review the donna marie hair whip!!
Feb 02, 2012 @ 07:16:19
It’s definitely on my list of products to review. Keep in mind, that list is rather long, lol, so please be patient.
Feb 02, 2012 @ 14:38:13
Haha, yes Elle
Feb 05, 2012 @ 14:20:30
Elle dear you are better then me –tho you are probably nagged more– I just have no desire to keep updating my HG list. I was just telling myself I need to get back on it. I do want to thank you {i know I said it before} because although our hair isn’t similar in it’s properties your reviews are thorough and help me make educated decisions on what products to use on my hair that I will get the best results with. You are appreciated.
Feb 05, 2012 @ 14:27:22
Hah! Updating the list isn’t the issue, it doesn’t even change that much. The issue comes when people continuously ask me what my favorite shampoo/condish/gel/etc is….when I’ve spent all the time listing them out here and linking their reviews. No ma’am, Elle doesn’t play that.
Feb 17, 2012 @ 15:22:04
Hi Elle,
Have you purchased Hair Rules Curly Whip recently? I really like it and have been using the same 16 oz bottle for the past 4 months or so. I went to the Hair Rules website to purchase a back up and noticed the online ingredients lists glycerin as the second ingredient. On my bottle, glycerin is not in the ingredients list at all. Glyceryl polymethacrylate is the second ingredient (looked it up on a couple cosmetic websites an still not sure what this stuff is lol). All this to say, I’m a little scared to repurchase the Curly Whip now because if they’ve added glycerin to their formula that’ll will extremely problematic for my hair considering that I live in a really humid climate. Any feedback will help! Happy Friday!
Feb 17, 2012 @ 15:26:12
Wow! No, I haven’t bought it since I last bought multiple 16oz bottles, I still have one left. I would contact them about it. I see the glycerin on their site and I don’t believe that was there before, because the main reason I liked it was b/c it didn’t have glycerin.
Feb 17, 2012 @ 15:35:21
Yea that’s the main reason I like it too. I’m always looking for glycerin free stylers, so I will definitely contact them before I repurchase. Thx for the feedback.
Feb 21, 2012 @ 09:49:22
Update on the Curly Whip:
I contacted the company, asking them if they had made any recent changes the product formulation for the Curly Whip, and here is their response in full:
“We made some slight changes recently to eliminate Phtlates. Since we have a blended inventory, the website listing reflects the latest listing from our lab.”
So with that said, I won’t be repurchasing the Curly Whip…glycerin is way to high on that ingredients list for my hair/climate.
Feb 21, 2012 @ 09:53:05
Whoaaaa…meaning phthalates?? Those were in the formula before? If so, those can be harmful. Welp, thanks for letting me know. I def need to remove it from the HM list now. I love it when my readers keep me in the know.
Feb 19, 2012 @ 14:59:09
Is UFD Curly Magic review still coming? I’ve seen other reviews on YouTube, but I’m most interested in your opinion before I buy.
Feb 19, 2012 @ 15:01:48
I should add that I want to hear or read your comments on it. You obviously like it if it’s on your HG list.
Feb 21, 2012 @ 10:05:55
I copied and pasted the response, but I assumed she meant phthalates when I read it.
Feb 22, 2012 @ 20:42:17
Hi, I bought the Ingredients To Die For 7lb deep conditioner. I was wondering if storage under my sink is sufficient or do you recommend putting it in the fridge?
Feb 22, 2012 @ 21:49:34
I always put my “reserves” in the fridge, but it’s a personal preference. It would be best to contact the company with questions on storing.
Feb 27, 2012 @ 12:45:30
Where can I purchase the Shea Moisture original leave-in?
Feb 27, 2012 @ 14:28:43
The link for purchase is provided in the review.
Feb 28, 2012 @ 10:19:17
Where can I buy Nature’s Organic Care Dry Shampoo. I went on the website but it didn’t provide details for purchasing its products in the US.
Feb 28, 2012 @ 10:22:40
I don’t know what that is.
Mar 01, 2012 @ 11:39:09
The site says only in Australia
so if you know someone down under they could get it for you
Mar 06, 2012 @ 18:58:54
Hey Elle,
While I was at target I saw this product and thought about you, its Curly Q’s Red Velvet moisturizing curl cream…I opened it and it smells like a red velvet cake (yum), have you heard of this product? I know you are on a no buy right now but are you on a no gift too?
Mar 07, 2012 @ 14:54:04
I’ve used it and have a review of it! It was only okay.
Mar 08, 2012 @ 15:05:41
I just want to say thank you very much for all your reviews and this holy grail list. Of the products I’ve tried so far on the list, you have not steered me wrong especially now that I’m taking into consideration dew points (no glycerin for me in humid, high dew point S FL). I finally feel as if I’m mastering the washngo style @ 15 months natural. Thank you for helping me to feel excited about my hair again.
Mar 11, 2012 @ 13:08:01
Hey Elle,
Have you ever tried UFD’s good hair? I love their curly magic, but wanted to read some reviews about it before I tried it.
Mar 11, 2012 @ 20:41:04
I have, it was okay…funnily enough, I didn’t like it paired with the Curly Magic.
Mar 23, 2012 @ 01:57:19
Have you ever tried the Bee Mine dc?
Mar 25, 2012 @ 09:33:08
Elle, I don’t think Hair Rules Curly Whip was re-formulated. I’m not sure if you’ve noticed but a lot of companies have had to modify their ingredients lists recently to comply with government regulations (Oyin is one company I can think of off the top of my head), and had to break down any compounded solutions in their product listing. So all that to say, I think CW always had glycerin in it but it was “cross-polymerized” (my word!) with the glyceral acetate and butylene glycol, and they just had to spell out (so to speak) for the feds what “glyceral polymethylacrylate” is. I am still on an old bottle so I haven’t tried it for myself, but I seriously doubt Dickey would re-formulate his star product like that and not say anything. Take care.
Mar 25, 2012 @ 10:14:51
Hmmm…I did a bit more research but I actually don’t think they are the same thing. Yes, I’ve seen several companies have to use INCI names but glyceryl polymethacrylate is an INCI ingredient already – also, it’s glycerin + polymethacrylic acid. Butylene glycol was also formerly lower on the ingredients list, and now it’s fourth. A lot of bigger companies change ingredients all the time and don’t alert customers about it, so I’m not disappointed in Hair Rules or anything like that – I just think that my review is no longer accurate. Check out the ingredients below – there are certainly a few things with the same names that have switched positions in the listing as well (not just adding ingredients in between which I agree with you in that those kind of switches can be the result of expanding to INCI). However, you do make me curious to see how similar they are in performance. I have a full bottle of the old one – maybe I will get another bottle and compare.
Old Ingredients:
Ingredients: water, glyceryl polymethacrylate, crambe abyssinica seed oil, honey, hedychium, coronarium root extract, cymbopogon shoenanthus extract, humulus lupulus extract, coix lacryma-jobi seed extract, PEG-12 dimethicone, PEG-40 hydrogenated castor oil, triethanolamine, carbomer, benzophenone-4, propylene glycol, butylene glycol, fragrance, disodium EDTA, DMDM hydantonin, iodopropynyl butylcarbamate
New Ingredients:
water (aqua), glycerin, glyceryl acrylate/acrylic acid copolymer, butylene glycol, crambe abyssinica seed oil, honey (mel), hedychium coronarium root (hawaiian ginger) extract, cymbopogon schoenanthus (lemongrass) extract, humulus lupulus (hops) extract, coix lacryma-jobi (job’s tears) seed extract, PEG-12 dimethicone, PEG-40 hydrogenated castor oil, benzophenone-4, carbomer, disodium EDTA, triethanolamine, DMDM hydantoin, iodopropynyl butylcarbamate, phenoxyethanol, fragrance (parfum)
After writing all of this (lol), I realized that Jess contacted the company and they did confirm that they changed some things. I may still try the new one though.
Mar 25, 2012 @ 18:58:47
I did look at these ingredients before I originally commented, and you are correct. My reference to butylene glycol (also a humectant) was an error (was rushing to do something else and flipping between here and the HR site), but glyceryl polymethacrylate (polymethacrylic acid) and glyceryl acrylate/acrylic acid copolymer are the same things. Humectants and the polymers are regularly merged together to control the viscosity of the product, so even though they may have made some mild adjustments, it’s likely not enough to notice it in performance. In reading what Jess reported, their change was to remove phthalates and replace with alternatives. In commenting I just hoped to point out the possibility that the changes wouldn’t warrant complete removal from your HG list (though of course that is your choice lol) if the overall product worked the exact same. Although it ideally shouldn’t be the case, I can see a lot of people coming to your list and ditching the product just because of the parenthetical notation you put next to it. I do look forward to hearing about your results if you do indeed try the new one. Regards.
Mar 25, 2012 @ 20:44:00
The product has been taken off of the list simply because I haven’t tried the new formula, and I can’t have a product on there that I have not tried. If I tried it, and it worked the same, I would put it back on there (well, I actually might not, because I do still think they added glycerin on its own and I’m not really looking for anymore stylers with glycerin). Like I said previously, they did also move the BG, which yes, is a humectant, and that may also affect performance. When I initially purchased the product, I knew that glyceryl polymethacrylate was derived from glycerin, but since had been altered, it may also affect hair differently than using straight glycerin (similar to how hydrolyzed proteins are different than non-hydrolyzed). I am also not so sure that the other two ingredients are the same either – I can’t find anything placing them together and in the ingredients directories I use, they list them for different uses. Furthermore, the ingredients lists I found list both of them several times…if they are the same thing, why would a company list them both? I’m not a chemist (and never claimed to be), but that doesn’t make any sense to me. Do you have a source? Either way, a glycerin-derived ingredient is still in the list, so why would they then list glycerin as well when the all-inclusive ingredient is in there? That also makes no sense.
Mar 25, 2012 @ 22:00:31
Ok, no problemo on the list, like I said earlier–it’s your list lol. I actually called my friend who is a biochemist to check before I posted my last comment so that’s my “source” if you want to call her that. She also said that if needed one can email Tonya, the NC Curl Chemist because she specializes in polymeric chemistry. She might have an answer for you as to why it is listed the way it is. Take care.
Apr 02, 2012 @ 12:58:14
Hi Elle,
I may have missed this post, but do you list the products on the Holy Grail list in any particular order. Like: do you like CJ Rehab better than CJ Beauticurls Argan and Olive Oil Conditioner as a leave-in? I’m ordering from CJ for the first time and want to see the best leave in to pair with AV gel or the KMF Upper Management Gel ( to get soft curls with hold). Thanks,
Apr 02, 2012 @ 13:03:00
No, there is no particular order. I like to rotate products and they are all great choices (for me).
Apr 09, 2012 @ 19:43:11
thanks for this list! is there a reason why JBCO shampoo was removed? I tried to do a search on your blog, but nothing came up. thanks!
Apr 11, 2012 @ 19:54:00
No, there was nothing wrong with it – I just have staples I can buy on the ground and when it was removed I did not have the HM list.
Apr 11, 2012 @ 19:48:54
Hi, I just bought the IC gel and blue eco styler and Shea Moisture Black treatment, and I just tried the IC… love it.. I will be buying everything on your list, my hair is just like yours… and I am a new subscriber, I will big chop soon and tried the IC on test patches as I am so scared that I will look like runaway slave… lord jesus.. thanks you so muck… please tell Marsha from Curl Junkie to send you products and make you a spokesmodel.. Love your videos.. Thanks
Apr 11, 2012 @ 19:53:15
PLEASE don’t buy everything on my list!! I am glad you like the videos, but make sure you know your hair’s porosity and texture – even if a gel works for you, other products may not (IC actually works for a variety of hair textures). Your hair may also look and act different once you big chop. And no one with natural hair looks like a runaway slave…I know that was a joke but…
Apr 19, 2012 @ 12:35:37
Hey Elle! Quick question, I have high porosity hair and nothing I’m doing is working. After about 2 hrs my hair looks like the sahara desert. I have tried moisturizing it when it wet and damp with a butter, leave in, or products with emulsions but none have worked and my curls end up frizzy and not very curly.
Apr 19, 2012 @ 12:37:51
Have you tried doing acidic rinses after conditioning (like green tea or ACV) in order to close your cuticle? Also, frizzy hair does not necessarily mean dry hair…does your hair feel dry or you just don’t like the look of it?
Apr 19, 2012 @ 12:44:08
Both, my hair feel dry and the root of my hair will not curl like my ends unless it is soak and wet
Apr 19, 2012 @ 12:46:40
I’d try an ACV rinse (I have a blog on it), but generally, your ends get drier, not your roots. I would stop concentrating on the curl for a bit and get your hair feeling better first.
Apr 19, 2012 @ 12:54:56
Ok thanks a bunch
Apr 20, 2012 @ 13:26:13
My hair is to yours, long thick, colored and low porosity. What do you recommend for acheiving the best twist-outs? And which products?
Apr 20, 2012 @ 13:37:36
Hey! I have a few twist out tutorials on the site that should be helpful to you.
Apr 20, 2012 @ 13:44:06
Thanks! I will check that out, and you can delete my other post, i didnt realize this one went through
Apr 23, 2012 @ 10:50:14
Hey Elle,
I just noticed that KCCC isn’t under your HG stylers anymore. This may very well be something I over looked before. But why was it removed, if you don’t mind me asking? I’ve never used it but then again I’ve never used a lot of gels.
Apr 23, 2012 @ 10:53:02
It didn’t get removed, it’s on the Honorable Mention part now…I just have too many gels and KCCC is generally more expensive and I can get a lot of the other more natural gels on sale a lot.
May 01, 2012 @ 06:36:29
Elle, you mentioned Flaxseed gel in one of your videos, do you make this or buy it ? If you make it do you have a video?Do you like it as well as Aloe Vera Gel?
May 01, 2012 @ 06:39:30
I made it, but don’t have a video or post because I can’t get my recipe and consistency right. I was trying to perfect it so I could do a post, but I just can’t get it – it’s always too watery or too snotty. I like it’s performance better than AV gel but I have to use a ton if it’s too watery – AV gel is more consistent so I’d rather use that.
May 03, 2012 @ 11:34:58
Elle how do you use fruit of the earth? For smoothing or as a styler? (or maybe both) just wondering
May 03, 2012 @ 11:40:19
I use it just like I would use any other gel – I added the link to my AV gel post on the list.
May 03, 2012 @ 15:40:21
k thanx
May 09, 2012 @ 19:19:25
Hi Elle! You are my 2012 hair guru…no pressure lol. I LOVE your YT channel and the blog. Anywho, I just purchased a few items from the SheScentit sale (Jojoba Shampoo, Avocado Condish, Marshmallow Cream **<–I seriously only bought that for the smell, could care less about performance**, and the Coconut Condish in case you were curious). So I was going nuts over reviews to figure out which ones to buy and I was so distraught to see that my hair guru didn't have anything posted on this line. Is SheScentit something you don't eff with? Or have you just not tried their stuff? Thoughts? Thanks!!
May 10, 2012 @ 15:37:26
Hey Elle,
I had a quick question for you. I usually use ufd’s curly magic and a leave in (curl junkie beauticurls or oyin dew) for my wash and go, but lately I’ve noticed that I’ve been getting white flakes/lint on my hair after my hair dries. Do you ever have this problem and if so, how do you fix it?
Thanks!
May 13, 2012 @ 17:17:40
Hi Elle! I’d like to ask, have you ever tried the Wen Hair care system? It’s basically a sulfate free shampoo (which they call a “cleansing conditioner’) and a deep conditioning treatment and then a whole bunch of styling products. I’ve been using it for a few months and it’s great for a wash and go! Since there are no sulfates, it doesn’t suds up and my hair doesn’t feel all brittle afterwards. Also, I have eczema in my scalp which makes my hair quite thin and this stuff is really helping my scalp! Normally I’d have to use some prescription ointment after shampooing to keep from getting all rashy (gross I know). But since I’ve been using Wen i haven’t had to use the prescription stuff at all…I take this as a good sign…if it’s good for my scalp, it’s probs good for my hair too?
If you’ve tried it, I’d love to hear your thoughts and any advice you might have!
Thanks!
AT
May 13, 2012 @ 17:18:36
There’s a review of it on the blog!
May 13, 2012 @ 21:46:07
Hey Elle,
What’s your favorite detanlgler, as far as products go? Like Tresseme Naturals verses Ingredients to die for. I’m just looking for a good product with “slip for days.” I don’t detangle in the shower currently ( if that helps answer the question/ see where I’m coming from).
I just wanted to see what works on other Natural’s hair, to get a place to start. Thanks,
May 13, 2012 @ 21:50:33
I can detangle with all of my conditioners, but the favorites are in the favorites video on this page.
May 14, 2012 @ 10:28:10
i noticed you never did a review on the UFD curly magic…what are your thoughts on it? would u say it works similar to the CJ pattern pusha?
May 14, 2012 @ 12:46:50
Hey, do you use any types of grease or something to hydrate your scalp if so which products
May 14, 2012 @ 15:52:55
No, grease does not hydrate your scalp. There are multiple posts about sealing vs. moisture on the blog.
May 15, 2012 @ 14:35:51
Hey Elle,
I had a quick question for you. I usually use ufd’s curly magic and a leave in (curl junkie beauticurls or oyin dew) for my wash and go, but lately I’ve noticed that I’ve been getting white flakes/lint on my hair after my hair dries. Do you ever have this problem and if so, how do you fix it?
May 17, 2012 @ 07:37:52
Good Morning! Thanks for the posts Elle! I have a question…I just cut off a whole lot of my natural hair because it is severely dry and damaged…I can’t seem to keep it moist. I am trying the curly girl method and things are a little bit better but my hair is still dry and still keeps breaking at the ends. I live in the Midwest and the humidity changes daily; Right now the dewpoint is 40…I have 4b hair in the front and 4c hair in the back. I am not willing to go to a hairstylist because I do not like how I am treated when I go. I would like to go to a salon and be treated as if I am “special” and typically I am treated like “cattle” lol…anywho…just wanted to get your opinion on possible solutions to my problem. I have provided a link so that you can see my head of hair…and since my April photo, I have cut my hair down to half the size because it is just soooo damaged…I want to retain length and right now it seems like I am stuck rocking a TWA!
May 21, 2012 @ 15:19:28
Have you browsed the blog? There are several posts about dryness and breakage…I don’t know your routine so I cannot diagnose why your hair is breaking.